#include <bits/stdc++.h>

using namespace std;
int pos;
int cnt;
string a, B;

int main() {
    cin >> a;
    for (int i = 0; i < a.size(); i++)
        if (a[i] >= 'A' && a[i] <= 'Z') a[i] += 32;
    a = ' ' + a + ' ';
    //读入一行数据之前，如果有输入，要getchar();
    getchar();
    getline(cin, b);
    b = ' ' + b + ' ';

    for (int i = 0; i < b.size(); i++)
        if (b[i] >= 'A' && b[i] <= 'Z') b[i] += 32;

    //在b中查找a
    int p = 0;
    while ((p = b.find(a, p)) != b.npos) {
        cnt++;
        if (cnt == 1) pos = p;
        p++;
    }
    if (cnt > 0) printf("%d %d\n", cnt, pos);
    else printf("%d", -1);
    return 0;
}