#include<iostream>

using namespace std;
string a, b;
int cnt, p = -1;

/**
 * to tomato不能匹配！
 * @return
 */
int main() {
    //读入带空格的字符串
    getline(cin, a);
    getline(cin, b);
    //a字符串转小写
    a = ' ' + a + ' ';
    for (int i = 0; i < a.size(); i++)
        if (a[i] >= 'A' && a[i] <= 'Z') a[i] = a[i] + 32;
    //b字符串转小写
    b = ' ' + b+' ';
    for (int i = 0; i < b.size(); i++)
        if (b[i] >= 'A' && b[i] <= 'Z') b[i] = b[i] + 32;

    //在b字符串查找
    for (int i = 0; i < b.size(); i++)
        if (b.substr(i, a.size()) == a) {
            cnt++;
            //记录第一个位置
            if (p == -1)p = i;
        }
    //输出
    if (cnt > 0) cout << cnt << " " << p << endl;
    else cout << -1 << endl;
    return 0;
}